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Pea Ridge

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:41 pm
by william1993
I was reading the topic of 'newspaper' and I saw where it said there was a minor defeat at Pea Ridge. Is there a Pea Ridge mod in here somewhere?

Re: Pea Ridge

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:50 pm
by Little Powell
No that's just the newspaper Reb was experimenting with. He's from Arky. :)

Re: Pea Ridge

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:10 pm
by RebBugler
At least not released yet...heh heh

Re: Pea Ridge

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:14 am
by 2nd Texas Infantry
This is why we need some Cherokee, Seminoles, and Chickasaw Confederate Indians. They were the finest light cavalry ever (American Indians). I hope we can replicate them for this epic Trans-Mississippi battle. Since Reb spilled the beans...here are some preliminary pics of his flags and my maps. Enjoy.
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Re: Pea Ridge

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:01 pm
by Ingles of the 57th
It would be interesting to see how cavalry tactics as programmed could be adapted for mounted Native Americans. As far as I can recall they never charged but came in quickly, almost in skirmish order, fired a volley (rifles or arrows) and then retreated equally rapidly. Their skill firing or using the axe on horseback(or ponyback I suppose to be more accurate) rarely required them to dismount.

There was also the circling movement (beloved of Hollywood) against lightly armed units.

I wonder if there will be a sprite of the classic tactic (Indian, Cossack and Ghengis) of crouching down low on the shelter side of the horse.

Night infiltration of units and the erosion of morale by causing captives to emit sounds of distress might also have a part to play. I'm sure Reb can unearth a fine catalogue of suitable anguish.

Stand in line and fight they never did any more than the Afgans did (and probably still don't)

Geoff Laver Late of Her Majesty's 57th Regiment of Foot.

Re: Pea Ridge

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:29 pm
by Saddletank
Seen some of those cool winter pictures before. I especially like the leafless trees. I hope we get to use those maps and flags someday fairly soon!

Hm, you really need a whole new bunch of code to cover Indian tactics, unfortunately I can't see NSD investing all the time and effort in writing it for a few units that will hardly get used, unless the Plains Indian Wars are a planned future product of the company.

Re: Pea Ridge

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:29 pm
by Michael Slaunwhite
I'm with you saddletank, I like the Ichabod Crane feel to the woods.

Re: Pea Ridge

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:23 am
by Jolly
Very nice looking indeed - I remember doing some work on a TC2M MOD of this a few years ago, that and also Prairie Grove, which was a similar Winter like feel.
Good Stuff!

Did Washington Irvine base 'The Legend of Sleepy Hollow' around here, or am I missing something? :)

Re: Pea Ridge

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:11 am
by 2nd Texas Infantry
Very nice looking indeed - I remember doing some work on a TC2M MOD of this a few years ago, that and also Prairie Grove, which was a similar Winter like feel.
Good Stuff!

Did Washington Irvine base 'The Legend of Sleepy Hollow' around here, or am I missing something? :)
Jolly/Davidd from the old game right. Thanks for the complement. No, Washington Irving's novel took place in New England, not North West Arkansas Boston/Ozark Mountains. The only folk-lore from these parts are a species of wild game known as the Reb Bugler. There is no bag limit according to the State of Arkansas Fish and Wildlife Department, but hunters are warned that this elusive animal does shoot back or blows sour notes from a trumpet until its' antagonist is rendered incapacitated.

Re: Pea Ridge

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:56 pm
by Zeke
Nice work my friend looks familiar...Pea Ridge is a much overlooked battlefield as is Prarie Grove and Perryville... B)


Re: Indian Sprites - I guess you could port in the indian sprites from the another game, some were done for TC2M - Frederick the Great Mod or you could use the Miltia and Ranger sprites as well - in actual fact indians played a more significant role in the American Civil war than people think and there were several battles involving prodominently Indian tribesmen such as Round Mountain, Chusto-Talasah, Chustenahlah, Cabin Creek, Honey Springs and the lovely named Devil's Backbone!

They fought for various reasons, for instance the Creek and the Choctaw fought for the confederacy, as they were actually slaveholders,The Choctaw alone owned nearly 6000 slaves others fought for tribe rivally and money/supplies - the federal government offered several inducements to recruit Indians such as land entitement ect (most of which were withdrawn after the war - the treatment of the Indian tribes after the war is one of the most shameful acts in American history in my opinion) mostly they formed into cavalry companies and later several cavalry regiments were formed or into Indian Home Guard units. They did actually fight in other battles such as participating in Pea Ridge, 2nd Manassas, Antietam, Spotsylvania, Cold Harbor and in the final assaults on Petersburg - Company K of the 1st Michigan Sharpshooters were made up of Indian tribesmen mostly Ottawa, Delaware, Huron Oneida, Potawami Ojibwe and some Seneca.

Brig. Gen Ely S. Parker on the Union side was one of the most high ranking Indians to serve he was a member of the Seneca tribe and it was Parker who actually created the articles of surrender for which Gen. Robert E. Lee signed at Appomattox in 1865 (Parker served as Grant's secretary and was a trained attorney) Apparently R.E Lee remarked to Parker after the signing, “I am glad to see at least one real American here”, to which Parker replied,“Sir, We are all Americans.”

On the confederate side Brig.Gen Stand Watie (of the Cherokee Nation) was the last to surrender,two months after R.E. Lee, and a month after Kirby Smith.