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As mentioned in previous post, have tested on custom setting. Have issued orders as army commander. Have tested more than you asked for, as I thought it might help

Options used are: custom difficulty, max camera distance 0, courier orders at brigade level and above. I used courier message window in all cases:

- when you say 'orders are implemented immediately' you mean couriers are sent immediately9with no time delay), or couriers are being skipped and the orders are being carried out?

Ordered brigade commander to change facing - courier moves to brigade commander who immediately spawns couriers to each individual regiment, which then move immediately those couriers arrive [that's odd because I thought I'd read somewhere that couriers don't go to individual regiments]

Ordered brigade commander to move to location - order format as you suggested 'move to this location, brigade, use roads'. Courier moves to brigade commander who immediately moves, but troops do not.

Ordered division commander to change facing - courier moves to division commander. No couriers spawned, but every regiment in division immediately changes facing.

Ordered division commander to move to location - order format as you suggested 'move to this location, division, use roads'. Courier moves to division commander who immediately moves, but troops do not.

Ordered division commander to move to location - order format is MTG 5-part method 'move to this location, change direction, change formation, posture, use roads'. Courier moves to division commander who immediately spawns couriers to brigade commanders. But every regiment in corps moves as soon as initial courier reaches corps commander.

- Corps cant be ordered, because there is no corps formations. MTG is adding them to his couriers mod, they should sort that problem out.

But here's the thing. They do for me

Ordered corps commander to change facing - courier moves to corps commander. No couriers spawned, but every regiment in corps immediately changes facing.

Ordered corps commander to move his unit 300 yards NE - courier moves to corps commander. Couriers immediately spawned to division and then to brigade commanders. Every brigade in corps immediately moves when courier arrives from division.

Ordered corps commander to move to location - order format as you suggested 'move to this location, corps, use roads'. Courier moves to corps commander who immediately moves, but troops do not.

Ordered corps commander to move to location - order format is MTG 5-part method 'move to this location, change direction, change formation (use division formations), posture, use roads'. Courier moves to corps commander who immediately spawns couriers to divisional commanders, who immediately spawn couriers to brigades. But every regiment in corps moves as soon as initial courier reaches corps commander.

- When you order a commander to wheel, no courier is sent, yes. The wheel order is outside of the courier system, thats the bug I mentioned. If you want to wheel the brigade, you then need to click the brigade formation order after ordering the commander, then couriers should go out to the regiments.

Ordered division commander to wheel - Courier moves to division commander who immediately spawns couriers to brigade commanders, who immeidately spawn couriers to individual regiments, which then move immediately those couriers arrive.

- think i gave the wrong order for the order there, try 'move to this location, division, use roads'.v Make yourself army commander, order a division.

See above. That's one of the methods I tried.

Order!

Yessir!

Martin

(a) it disables HITS for some reason - ie I can see my character riding off into the distance, and have to keep pressing the 'ME' button

Use the "F" key if I'm not mistaken will lock you in the saddle. Press F once to lock in, press F again to stay in the saddle but have the ability to look around, press F for a third time to release you from the saddle.

Just tried that, and yes it does seem to work. Thanks Michael.

For MP would prefer a non-discretionary solution set by the host though.

Martin

I took a look at the courier file and see that it still has many incorrect orders. That is rather remarkable since I've mentioned on several occasions how to correct it. I'd suggest anyone wanting to use couriers to use the file from the Courier & Mini Map mod. That will fix the problem of the commander moving while leaving his troops behind and other issues.

I took a look at the courier file and see that it still has many incorrect orders. That is rather remarkable since I've mentioned on several occasions how to correct it. I'd suggest anyone wanting to use couriers to use the file from the Courier & Mini Map mod. That will fix the problem of the commander moving while leaving his troops behind and other issues.

Hi MTG.

I'm going to get the fix up for people to download who wish to use the courier. Question: Do I need to have both the courier.csv, and the drills.csv? or only the courier.csv?

Michael wrote:

Question: Do I need to have both the courier.csv, and the drills.csv? or only the courier.csv?

You will need both.

Michael wrote:

Question: Do I need to have both the courier.csv, and the drills.csv? or only the courier.csv?

You will need both.

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reissuing command statement...standby...brain cell 109882765442873651 is now working...Done. Work completed successfully...compiling...

You may now download this file.

Before I download the file over which you have labored so long and so well - thereby messing up everything else in the game because I don't know what I'm supposed to do - what am I supposed to do with this file? Let me share my guess with you and you correct me where I'm wrong.

Download the file to some safe place.
Unzip it, extracting the two files to some safe place.
Copy those two files and put them into the ??? folder.
And either, (1) replace the existing files with the same names, or, (2) don't replace the old files, rather Ctrl-X the old files and move them to a safe place then Ctrl-C the new files to where the old ones were ... which is where, exactly?? :huh:

Thanks for the help!

Before I download the file over which you have labored so long and so well - thereby messing up everything else in the game because I don't know what I'm supposed to do - what am I supposed to do with this file? Let me share my guess with you and you correct me where I'm wrong.

Download the file to some safe place.
Unzip it, extracting the two files to some safe place.
Copy those two files and put them into the ??? folder.
And either, (1) replace the existing files with the same names, or, (2) don't replace the old files, rather Ctrl-X the old files and move them to a safe place then Ctrl-C the new files to where the old ones were ... which is where, exactly?? :huh:

Thanks for the help!

Ahhh the horror of it all...well this is what I live for.

Allrighty then, I'll do what I can to help you out.

Follow these simple steps, and you will be causing massive damage like the rest of us :whistle:

Step #1: Download the file. :blink:
Step #2: Use an un-archiver such as Winzip, Winrar, 7zip, or whatever you like to use.
Step #3: Open the zip file.

Note Step #3: You will see inside the zipfile a folder called "Courier Fix".

Step #4: Unzip/extract this folder to your Scourge of War - Gettysburg directory which is normally <drive letter>:\NorbSoftDev\Scourge of War - Gettysburg\Mods

Step #5: Start the game (SOWgb)
Step #6: While in the game, select modifications.
Step #7: Scroll down to the bottom of your mod list, and you should see "Courier Fix". Activate it (a yellow color should show up telling you that it is activated)

Fun Part: Kick some butt.

I have run the tests you requested using custom, but am unable to actually play on it for the following reasons:

(a) it disables HITS for some reason - ie I can see my character riding off into the distance, and have to keep pressing the 'ME' button

(b) it allows me to position camera on any officer by going through the OOB

So have reverted to historical as very much the lesser evil. Have checked again today, and both these issues still arise. Both occur whether or not I tick 'Camera stay w/OOB Navigation' on p2 of the Options screens btw.

Nevertheless, have gone through your checklist on custom setting. See next post.

Martin

You have to set your camera distance to a value. You probably have it set to '0', which means there are no restrictions. I set mine to 20 to allow me a bit of wiggle room around the general for awkward locations.

Options used are: custom difficulty, max camera distance 0, courier orders at brigade level and above. I used courier message window in all cases:

yep - its set to 0, change that to 20 or something. 20 gives you a bit of freedom.

Ordered brigade commander to change facing - courier moves to brigade commander who immediately spawns couriers to each individual regiment, which then move immediately those couriers arrive [that's odd because I thought I'd read somewhere that couriers don't go to individual regiments]

They dont at historical difficulty, they do at custom. Thats what the brigade setting does. Couriers go out to all units in a brigade. Historical is from a previous release and hasnt been updated yet, its set at division, so couriers only go out to all units in a division.

Ordered brigade commander to move to location - order format as you suggested 'move to this location, brigade, use roads'. Courier moves to brigade commander who immediately moves, but troops do not.

That should definitely work - as long as you are giving a brigade formation order 'brigade form line', etc.

Ordered division commander to change facing - courier moves to division commander. No couriers spawned, but every regiment in division immediately changes facing.

This is the change facing bug I mentioned.

Ordered division commander to move to location - order format as you suggested 'move to this location, division, use roads'. Courier moves to division commander who immediately moves, but troops do not.

This should work as well if you have sepcified a formation. Im beginning to think your going to have to reinstall.

Ordered division commander to move to location - order format is MTG 5-part method 'move to this location, change direction, change formation, posture, use roads'. Courier moves to division commander who immediately spawns couriers to brigade commanders. But every regiment in corps moves as soon as initial courier reaches corps commander.

I think if you actually wait a while and watch this youll see they arent moving, theyre just carrying out the buggy change facing order - once they reorientate themselves theyll stop and wait for the movement and formation orders to reach them.

Ordered corps commander to change facing - courier moves to corps commander. No couriers spawned, but every regiment in corps immediately changes facing.

I suppose that could work...never tried it though, you wouldnt rotate a corps like that. Buggy change facing again.

Ordered corps commander to move his unit 300 yards NE - courier moves to corps commander. Couriers immediately spawned to division and then to brigade commanders. Every brigade in corps immediately moves when courier arrives from division.

ok - never tried that either, good to see it works though. There really should have been a time delay when those couriers reached the CG and DG's though, although thats not a huge issue compared to the other ones your mentioning in this post.

Ordered corps commander to move to location - order format as you suggested 'move to this location, corps, use roads'. Courier moves to corps commander who immediately moves, but troops do not

This is strange, because there arent any corps formations to give.

Ordered corps commander to move to location - order format is MTG 5-part method 'move to this location, change direction, change formation (use division formations), posture, use roads'. Courier moves to corps commander who immediately spawns couriers to divisional commanders, who immediately spawn couriers to brigades. But every regiment in corps moves as soon as initial courier reaches corps commander.

Same as above, if you wait and watch they are carrying out the buggy orientation order - not the movement and formation order.

You cant apply division formations to corps. They wont form up correctly and they wont move the whole corps.

Ordered division commander to wheel - Courier moves to division commander who immediately spawns couriers to brigade commanders, who immeidately spawn couriers to individual regiments, which then move immediately those couriers arrive.

I was talking about using the toolbar - but as this was with the courier menu I suppose it could work like that...sounds like its working correctly.