CAPTURED ARTILLERY ?

[BOSTON]

Upon capturing artillery, I'm getting the white flag of the captured units, but not the possession of the guns themselves, Does that hold true throughout the whole game?

BOSTON

[Geneal William D. Pender]

It depends on how the oob is set up u get the guns if u have a arty commander under ur div but u get the white flag if the arty commander has his own div.

[BOSTON]

Sounds rational, Makes sense to me! Thanks!

[Garnier]

The white flag means the gun surrendered, and the gun becomes unusable for the rest of the game.

If you actually capture the gun as you normally do, the gun will have your side's flag and be under your command.

[Shirkon]

Garnier wrote:

The white flag means the gun surrendered, and the gun becomes unusable for the rest of the game.

If you actually capture the gun as you normally do, the gun will have your side's flag and be under your command.

Only if there is a Artillery Battery in the capturing units higher organization for the captured guns to be attached to.

For instance: Generally, any organization under division won't have an artillery battery as part of it, so captured guns will disappear. For Corps and Divisions that do have batteries, the gun will be attached to one of these that are under the commander that the capturing unit is under. For a Division this is easy to figure since the batteries are under one commander under the Division Commander. For a Corps, it would be under the Division the capturing unit is under.

[BOSTON]

OK, I have been playing and replaying the Corps Tutorial, Tompkins has rank over all artillery (division I believe). That's why Pender's post seemed logical. In a way a blessing, for if I was to keep the guns, the other CSA batteries would have blown them to smithereens. Did manage to escape with the winning regiment, with nominal losses, now regrouping to attack another battery. Of course it would be another thing to attach one of Tompkin's batteries to the attacking division (keep captured guns), but I don't think that we can do that in this game, maybe a MOd. If anybody has another angle, I'm all ears! :side:

[J Canuck]

Shirkon wrote:

Garnier wrote:

The white flag means the gun surrendered, and the gun becomes unusable for the rest of the game.

If you actually capture the gun as you normally do, the gun will have your side's flag and be under your command.

Only if there is a Artillery Battery in the capturing units higher organization for the captured guns to be attached to.

For instance: Generally, any organization under division won't have an artillery battery as part of it, so captured guns will disappear. For Corps and Divisions that do have batteries, the gun will be attached to one of these that are under the commander that the capturing unit is under. For a Division this is easy to figure since the batteries are under one commander under the Division Commander. For a Corps, it would be under the Division the capturing unit is under.

AH HA! Another frustrating nuance clarified.

As I have previously posted, it would be a great help (add credibility and eliminate frustration by reversing beliefs the game is full of bugs) if this game's many nuances were explained somewhere. I appreciate this could wait a while until the patches under development are issued as some of these current nuances will probably change.

[Little Powell]

J Canuck wrote:

Shirkon wrote:

Garnier wrote:

The white flag means the gun surrendered, and the gun becomes unusable for the rest of the game.

If you actually capture the gun as you normally do, the gun will have your side's flag and be under your command.

Only if there is a Artillery Battery in the capturing units higher organization for the captured guns to be attached to.

For instance: Generally, any organization under division won't have an artillery battery as part of it, so captured guns will disappear. For Corps and Divisions that do have batteries, the gun will be attached to one of these that are under the commander that the capturing unit is under. For a Division this is easy to figure since the batteries are under one commander under the Division Commander. For a Corps, it would be under the Division the capturing unit is under.

AH HA! Another frustrating nuance clarified.

As I have previously posted, it would be a great help (add credibility and eliminate frustration by reversing beliefs the game is full of bugs) if this game's many nuances were explained somewhere. I appreciate this could wait a while until the patches under development are issued as some of these current nuances will probably change.

I agree this should be explained in the manual. I actually thought it was, but if it's not, I'll see that it gets in there.

[J Canuck]

Thanks.

I had read the entire Manual and do not recall any mention of captured artillery vs surrendered. I just finished searching the manual using the words: charge, capture, surrender and white; I found no mention of the difference.

[Little Powell]

J Canuck wrote:

Thanks.

I had read the entire Manual and do not recall any mention of captured artillery vs surrendered. I just finished searching the manual using the words: charge, capture, surrender and white; I found no mention of the difference.

Also want to mention; Shirkon reminded me that this was exactly the same with TC2M. If there wasn't an artillery battery in the division for the captured gun to be attached to, then it disappeared. Figured an ol' TC2M veteran like yourself should know that...