Zouaves

[Joshua l.Chamberlain]

Will you have every zouave unit's uniform that was at Gettysburg?

[Jim]

No, we do not have enough memory available to have that many uniforms.

-Jim

[Hancock the Superb]

Could you tell us what uniforms you have implamented into the game

[O. O. Howard]

I think there were only 2 fully uniformed zouave regiments (114th PA & 146th NY) and one chasseur regiment (84th NY) at Gettysburg. The 95th PA and maybe(big maybe) the 72nd PA were still wearing their jackets, but these were modified zouave jackets and wouldn't be worth the extra memory.

Were there others that I am missing?

[bedbug]

Basically O.O. has what we're doing.

There's tons of discussion on who wore what and when. This is complicated by the fact that resupply for zouave uniforms was sometimes sketchy at best and many men would wear what they could so the overall impression of some regiments at times may not have been too "zouavy". :laugh:

We have stuck with the 114th and 146th uniforms and given some of the others that probably had zouave uniforms (definitely the 84th ne 14th Brooklyn).
We thought we were lucky to keep two seperate zouave uniforms as vertually all were different to one degree or another.

In any event if there are those who feel there is an inaccuracy it's easy for them to change a uniform type in the csv's.

At one point we had the Louisiana Tigers in full zouave rig until we couldn't support/justify it historically.

[Joshua l.Chamberlain]

Maybe you could add the extra zouave uniforms and maybe you could add the union winter great coat uniform as a part of the SDK.

[Hancock the Superb]

The Zouve uniforms look great on the home site!

[O. O. Howard]

bedbug wrote:

Basically O.O. has what we're doing.

There's tons of discussion on who wore what and when. This is complicated by the fact that resupply for zouave uniforms was sometimes sketchy at best and many men would wear what they could so the overall impression of some regiments at times may not have been too "zouavy". :laugh:

We have stuck with the 114th and 146th uniforms and given some of the others that probably had zouave uniforms (definitely the 84th ne 14th Brooklyn).
We thought we were lucky to keep two seperate zouave uniforms as vertually all were different to one degree or another.

In any event if there are those who feel there is an inaccuracy it's easy for them to change a uniform type in the csv's.

At one point we had the Louisiana Tigers in full zouave rig until we couldn't support/justify it historically.

I think those three (114th, 146th and 84th NY (14th Brooklyn) are the only ones justifiable for Gettyburg. There is good reason to believe the 95th PA had their jackets resupplied, but onlytheir jackets. The 72nd PA wore the same jackets, so it is possible that they were also re-supplied. I am an avid fan of the 72nd and would love to be able to say that I think they were still wearing their zouave jackets at Gettysburg, but I am not sure they were and I have seen photos of men in the 72nd wearing regulation uniforms.

Many of the monuments showing men in zouave uniforms at Gettysburg are harking back to their unit identity as zouaves and don't actually represent what the regiments were wearing in July 1863. The 23rd Pennsylvania (Birney's Zouaves) monument on Culp's Hill shows a soldier wearing their modified zouave uniform, but they had long since gone to regulation uniforms. The 155th Pennsylvania (Pearson's Zouaves) also shows a soldier in the zouave uniform that they did not wear until afterGettysburg.

I am not even sure that the 10th New York Battalion, (which was on provost guard at G-burg)still had zouave uniforms at that time. I'd like to hear if anyone can really prove any other zouave uniforms on the field at Gettyburg other then the 114th, 146th and 84th.

[Joshua l.Chamberlain]

O. O. Howard wrote:

bedbug wrote:

Basically O.O. has what we're doing.

There's tons of discussion on who wore what and when. This is complicated by the fact that resupply for zouave uniforms was sometimes sketchy at best and many men would wear what they could so the overall impression of some regiments at times may not have been too "zouavy". :laugh:

We have stuck with the 114th and 146th uniforms and given some of the others that probably had zouave uniforms (definitely the 84th ne 14th Brooklyn).
We thought we were lucky to keep two seperate zouave uniforms as vertually all were different to one degree or another.

In any event if there are those who feel there is an inaccuracy it's easy for them to change a uniform type in the csv's.

At one point we had the Louisiana Tigers in full zouave rig until we couldn't support/justify it historically.

I think those three (114th, 146th and 84th NY (14th Brooklyn) are the only ones justifiable for Gettyburg. There is good reason to believe the 95th PA had their jackets resupplied, but onlytheir jackets. The 72nd PA wore the same jackets, so it is possible that they were also re-supplied. I am an avid fan of the 72nd and would love to be able to say that I think they were still wearing their zouave jackets at Gettysburg, but I am not sure they were and I have seen photos of men in the 72nd wearing regulation uniforms.

Many of the monuments showing men in zouave uniforms at Gettysburg are harking back to their unit identity as zouaves and don't actually represent what the regiments were wearing in July 1863. The 23rd Pennsylvania (Birney's Zouaves) monument on Culp's Hill shows a soldier wearing their modified zouave uniform, but they had long since gone to regulation uniforms. The 155th Pennsylvania (Pearson's Zouaves) also shows a soldier in the zouave uniform that they did not wear until afterGettysburg.

I am not even sure that the 10th New York Battalion, (which was on provost guard at G-burg)still had zouave uniforms at that time. I'd like to hear if anyone can really prove any other zouave uniforms on the field at Gettyburg other then the 114th, 146th and 84th.

When you said the 114th do you mean the 114th Pennsylvania?

[O. O. Howard]

Joshua l.Chamberlain wrote:

When you said the 114th do you mean the 114th Pennsylvania?

Yes, that's who I mean: Collis' Zouaves (from the original company of "Zouaves D'Afrique" that fought with Banks). As Hancock said, they look great in the screenshots that have come out so far.